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» RedHeaven Fri Apr 27, 2012 09:18 PM Process-stop Flag_blue Delete_user Mail-reply-sender Ip Quote
The GREY ALIENS are US in the WAY FUTURE.
Get the fuck here now Future Peeps and help us fix this shit.....Maybe we wont shrivel into GREYS if something is done!

Hahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

And only the Penguins remain.....the generals have all left the game....with nowhere to fight, theyll fade with the light, the whole world is going insane!!!

All we have is poetry, folks.

My roses on my porch are all funny looking. They look mutated. Its kinda creepy, but Im sure its something else...maybe just a weird grow year...MAYBE

OK folks its Whiskey Night. Ta Ta!
» bennyboy420 Sat Apr 28, 2012 02:00 PM Process-stop Flag_blue Delete_user Mail-reply-sender Ip Quote
A leak discovered earlier this year in a steam generator pipe at the San Onofre nuclear plant has lead to two unanimous City Council decisions to send letters of concern to the NRC. Fairewind's Arnie Gundersen presented at both council meetings. In this video Gundersen talks with KPBS's Peggy Pico about the steam generator leak, the city council decisions and the licensing status of San Onofre.

http://www.fairewinds.org/content/gundersen-kpbs-discusses-developing-san-onofre-situation

Associated Material
Report San Onofre Cascading Steam Generator Failures Created By Edison
Report Steam Generator Failures at San Onofre
» bennyboy420 Sat Apr 28, 2012 04:17 PM Process-stop Flag_blue Delete_user Mail-reply-sender Ip Quote
Harvard study reveals large-scale radiation releases just outside major US city that lasted for decades

“Revelations on nuclear plants sound
warning” — Harvard study reveals
large-scale radiation releases just
outside major US city that lasted for
decades — “Surely this could not
have happened, but apparently it
did” (VIDEO)
http://enenews.com/post-gazette-revelations-on-nuclear-plants-sound-warning-harvard-professor-reveals-large-scale-radiation-releases-just-outside-major-us-city-that-lasted-for-decades-surely-this-could-not
» Dixieland_Gutterman (OP) • Sat Apr 28, 2012 09:50 PM Process-stop Flag_blue Delete_user Mail-reply-sender Ip Quote
Jesus christ!
» bennyboy420 Sat Apr 28, 2012 10:26 PM Process-stop Flag_blue Delete_user Mail-reply-sender Ip Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dixieland_Gutterman
Jesus christ!


All we need.
» Dixieland_Gutterman (OP) • Mon Apr 30, 2012 10:58 AM Process-stop Flag_blue Delete_user Mail-reply-sender Ip Quote
119 of 132 people positive from sampling survey of radioactive substances in urine in Iwate
Posted by Mochizuki on April 29th, 2012 · 6 Comments

Iwate prefecture conducted sampling survey of radioactive substances in urine in Ichinoseki city and Oshu city.

The result published on 3/2/2012 shows cesium was measured from 119 of 132 people (90.1%). The highest reading was 6 Bq/L.

On 4/16/2012, the chairman of Iwate association of obstetricians and gynecologists, Kobayashi sent public questions to Tasso, Iwate governor.

http://fukushima-diary.com/2012/04/119-of-132-people-positive-from-sampling-survey-of-radioactive-substances-in-urine-in-iwate/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+FukushimaDiary+%28Fukushima+Diary%29
» bennyboy420 Mon Apr 30, 2012 12:30 PM Process-stop Flag_blue Delete_user Mail-reply-sender Ip Quote
Public Question #1: Are we fucked?

Public question #2: how fucked are we?
» RedHeaven Mon Apr 30, 2012 03:24 PM Process-stop Flag_blue Delete_user Mail-reply-sender Ip Quote
You guys wanna see a really scary awesome music video? Kate knew

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9n2VSe_lja4
» JazzSpaz Mon Apr 30, 2012 04:57 PM Process-stop Flag_blue Delete_user Mail-reply-sender Ip Quote
This might be a ridiculous question, but how can one MOX rod have the ability to kill 2.89 billion people. Plutonium is a naturally occurring material within our planet...how does processing it somehow convert into an extinction event material?
» Dixieland_Gutterman (OP) • Mon Apr 30, 2012 05:24 PM Process-stop Flag_blue Delete_user Mail-reply-sender Ip Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by JazzSpaz
This might be a ridiculous question, but how can one MOX rod have the ability to kill 2.89 billion people. Plutonium is a naturally occurring material within our planet...how does processing it somehow convert into an extinction event material?



It's naturally occurring in INCREDIBLY trace amounts and under very specific geologic conditions. When it's naturally occurring it is also locked up in whatever geologic matrix it was created in, which makes it unavailable for biological uptake.

The MOX in the fuel rods would be faaar more dangerous because it is A) Refined into pure radioisotope alpha-emitters, B) If it were to be destroyed in an explosion the material could be aerosolized into microparticles that could be borne away by smoke and scattered throughout our atmosphere, which would make it very bioavailable via inhalation or ingestion.
» Dixieland_Gutterman (OP) • Mon Apr 30, 2012 05:24 PM Process-stop Flag_blue Delete_user Mail-reply-sender Ip Quote
(But those numbers are a little nutty, yes.)
» Dixieland_Gutterman (OP) • Tue May 01, 2012 07:11 PM Process-stop Flag_blue Delete_user Mail-reply-sender Ip Quote
Urgent Request to UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon
May 1, 2012
To: UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon

An Urgent Request on UN Intervention to Stabilize the Fukushima Unit 4 Spent Nuclear Fuel

Recently, former diplomats and experts both in Japan and abroad stressed the extremely risky condition of the Fukushima Daiichi Unit 4 spent nuclear fuel pool and this is being widely reported by world media. Robert Alvarez, Senior Scholar at the Institute for Policy Studies (IPS), who is one of the best-known experts on spent nuclear fuel, stated that in Unit 4 there is spent nuclear fuel which contains Cesium-137 (Cs-137) that is equivalent to 10 times the amount that was released at the time of the Chernobyl nuclear accident. Thus, if an earthquake or other event were to cause this pool to drain, this could result in a catastrophic radiological fire involving nearly 10 times the amount of Cs-137 released by the Chernobyl accident.

http://fukushima.greenaction-japan.org/2012/05/01/an-urgent-request-on-un-intervention-to-stabilize-the-fukushima-unit-4-spent-nuclear-fuel/
» bennyboy420 Tue May 01, 2012 07:21 PM Process-stop Flag_blue Delete_user Mail-reply-sender Ip Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dixieland_Gutterman
Urgent Request to UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon
May 1, 2012
To: UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon

An Urgent Request on UN Intervention to Stabilize the Fukushima Unit 4 Spent Nuclear Fuel

Recently, former diplomats and experts both in Japan and abroad stressed the extremely risky condition of the Fukushima Daiichi Unit 4 spent nuclear fuel pool and this is being widely reported by world media. Robert Alvarez, Senior Scholar at the Institute for Policy Studies (IPS), who is one of the best-known experts on spent nuclear fuel, stated that in Unit 4 there is spent nuclear fuel which contains Cesium-137 (Cs-137) that is equivalent to 10 times the amount that was released at the time of the Chernobyl nuclear accident. Thus, if an earthquake or other event were to cause this pool to drain, this could result in a catastrophic radiological fire involving nearly 10 times the amount of Cs-137 released by the Chernobyl accident.

http://fukushima.greenaction-japan.org/2012/05/01/an-urgent-request-on-un-intervention-to-stabilize-the-fukushima-unit-4-spent-nuclear-fuel/


SWIM MUTHA FUCKAS SWIM!
» swb11s8 Tue May 01, 2012 09:11 PM Process-stop Flag_blue Delete_user Mail-reply-sender Ip Quote
FINALLY... wait so if i am reading this correctly, Japan has been refusing international help?
» bennyboy420 Tue May 01, 2012 09:19 PM Process-stop Flag_blue Delete_user Mail-reply-sender Ip Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by swb11s8
FINALLY... wait so if i am reading this correctly, Japan has been refusing international help?


No, I don't think that is the case at all. I think they are managing the news however, and that news is, IT IS HOPELESS. Help what?
» swb11s8 Tue May 01, 2012 09:30 PM Process-stop Flag_blue Delete_user Mail-reply-sender Ip Quote
removing the spent fuel out of unit 4 is hopeless?
» bennyboy420 Wed May 02, 2012 02:53 PM Process-stop Flag_blue Delete_user Mail-reply-sender Ip Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by swb11s8
removing the spent fuel out of unit 4 is hopeless?


I'll let Dixie off on that. I don't know myself.

But here is a great story about a Greenpeacer flying into a French Nuke plant: http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2012/05/02-1
» RedHeaven Wed May 02, 2012 04:15 PM Process-stop Flag_blue Delete_user Mail-reply-sender Ip Quote
I guess blasting the 80s hit "I'll Stop The World And Melt With You" is a little too soon?

From what I gather, the world won't stop for Japan....and it could affect us all....?
» bennyboy420 Wed May 02, 2012 04:57 PM Process-stop Flag_blue Delete_user Mail-reply-sender Ip Quote
"Oshidori Mako talked at Osaka Bar Association when she asked Tepco , “We see gas coming out from Fukushima plants at night. It looks like smoke. What is that ? ”
Tepco replied it’s water vapor.
She asked them again, if it’s radioactive.
They answered it is radioactive, and it comes out in day time and night time."

from Fukishima Diary...heck of a good source.with videos and pics)
http://fukushima-diary.com/2012/05/massive-radioactive-gas-covering-fukushima-plants/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+FukushimaDiary+%28Fukushima+Diary%29

A comment on that page:
"If they have gas coming up like that, then that means the core has definitely melted thru the bottom of the containment and is boiling ground water, creating the “gas” or steam which is what it really is, steam, and radioactive steam at that!
They are covering up the beginning of a China syndrome event!"
» Dixieland_Gutterman (OP) • Wed May 02, 2012 06:01 PM Process-stop Flag_blue Delete_user Mail-reply-sender Ip Quote
Well of course it is.

They're not putting millions of gallons of water EVERY DAY on those rods because the water is just sitting there... shit's all evaporating, and carrying aerosolized radionuclides along with it.



Which is why my soil cap integrates inline venting to pull the steam through piping and into zeolite scrubbers.

Quote:
Originally Posted by swb11s8
removing the spent fuel out of unit 4 is hopeless?



Reactor 4 is a crazy one, because it isn't all 'spent fuel'. (The quotes are because spent fuel isn't really spent for years and years after it is considered 'too spent' to generate electricity.) At the time of the explosion all of the active rods had been removed from the reactor of building 4 and placed in the cooling pond for reactor maintenance.

The camera shots of inside the Reactor 4 building revealed that the racks for holding the fuel rods seemed to be mostly intact... the rods themselves were onobservable howerever.

The radiation level in all of the buildings is soo high that there will have to be new equipment developed to even begin working in the buildings. Then you have to figure out how to extract the rods (if they're even intact enough to be extracted).



All of this is why I say that instead of spending 20 years and 100 billion developing a totally unnecessary solution that we should bury it and when we feel comfortable we can go back and mine the burial site in a controlled manner to extract the radioactive materials.
» ZACHARYPOWER7 Thu May 03, 2012 07:33 PM Process-stop Flag_blue Delete_user Mail-reply-sender Ip Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dixieland_Gutterman
(But those numbers are a little nutty, yes.)



how many mox rods are there at Fukushima? way more than two or three i bet. way more than enough to kill alot people at half of that figure.

if those numbers are exagerated by 5x it takes like 10 or 15 rods to kill everyone on earth. how many rods are in one assembly? a shit load more than enough to fuck everything up really bad.

scary shit


Quote:
Originally Posted by Dixieland_Gutterman
Well of course it is.

They're not putting millions of gallons of water EVERY DAY on those rods because the water is just sitting there... shit's all evaporating, and carrying aerosolized radionuclides along with it.



Which is why my soil cap integrates inline venting to pull the steam through piping and into zeolite scrubbers.

Quote:
Originally Posted by swb11s8
removing the spent fuel out of unit 4 is hopeless?



Reactor 4 is a crazy one, because it isn't all 'spent fuel'. (The quotes are because spent fuel isn't really spent for years and years after it is considered 'too spent' to generate electricity.) At the time of the explosion all of the active rods had been removed from the reactor of building 4 and placed in the cooling pond for reactor maintenance.

The camera shots of inside the Reactor 4 building revealed that the racks for holding the fuel rods seemed to be mostly intact... the rods themselves were onobservable howerever.

The radiation level in all of the buildings is soo high that there will have to be new equipment developed to even begin working in the buildings. Then you have to figure out how to extract the rods (if they're even intact enough to be extracted).



All of this is why I say that instead of spending 20 years and 100 billion developing a totally unnecessary solution that we should bury it and when we feel comfortable we can go back and mine the burial site in a controlled manner to extract the radioactive materials.



i'm still with you.
» ZACHARYPOWER7 Thu May 03, 2012 07:57 PM Process-stop Flag_blue Delete_user Mail-reply-sender Ip Quote
http://enenews.com/nuclear-expert-everybody-paying-attention-unit-4-because-four-years-water-lost-beacon-radiation-will-bathe-site-sky-shine-gamma-rays-audio


death trap. i feel like reactors 2 and 3 may be shining already. how long will people even be able to keep working on the site?
» ZACHARYPOWER7 Thu May 03, 2012 07:59 PM Process-stop Flag_blue Delete_user Mail-reply-sender Ip Quote
http://enenews.com/we%e2%80%99re-not-trying-to-bamboozle-the-public-anything-we-can-do-from-a-policy-standpoint-that-can-reduce-excessive-concern-about-event-with-potential-for-radioactive-fallout-has-huge-econom

no shit?

http://enenews.com/economist-japan-nuclear-power-first-time-50-years-silent-majority-speaks-analysts-anti-nuclear-party-could-vault-national-prominence

should be a world wide movement.
» bennyboy420 Fri May 04, 2012 02:39 PM Process-stop Flag_blue Delete_user Mail-reply-sender Ip Quote
Notes on Fukushima Forum Spent Fuel Pool 4 danger / media blackout - still live on Ustream 12:20est

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http://www.ustream.tv/channel/test-erf#utm_campaign=enformable.com&utm_source=10554088&utm_medium=social

(showing slides)

This is the housing of reactor no. 4

As you can see because of hydro explosion building demolished sides blown off

The problem occurs because floor below has been damaged and
wall destroyed.

The spent fuel is here (lower down)

A large amount of radioactive material has fallen to bottom of pool

So if this wall comes off (tremor/earthquake) and pool were to be exposed
this material would come out with nothing to hold it in

That is why tepco is at this moment working to remove radioactive material
to another location outside

In this condition it is not possible
to remove spent fuel...

So tepco is dismantling the whole building
Tepco planning to build another building around
then install another crane.

It will take a year and a half

Many years require to hoist out fuel

Fuel may be damaged and difficult to remove

Humanity has never encountered anything like this

Please join me in hoping and praying there is not no aftershock that
occurs at that time

US JOURNALIST: I feel ashamed that this room is not overflowing with media

I was struck by your presentations that there is a mass media blackout
on this emergency

The US press code prevented press from understanding what really
happened in Hiroshima and Nagasaki too

So that the nuclear industry went forward without this knowledge

What can we do to bring attention to this in the USA?

What advice would you give to bring your message to a broader public?

Moderator: I will note that 1600 are watching on the internet, it may be that as in Japan
where progress was made by citizen activists, might be the same here.


Answer: i am not media expert but the mass media cannot operate w/o sponsors

Unfortunately, most media in Japan have Tepco as a sponsor

We need to change that system ... they are also relying on media, Facebook in particular,
we think this is the way we'll have to use the media.

So it's all up to us. If we don't as citizens bring pressure to bear this will be poorly
handled by a corrupt and incompetent company - Tepco.










Speakers:

Hiroaki Koide, Nuclear Reactor Specialist and Assistant Professor at Kyoto University Research Reactor Institute. After realizing in 1970 that nuclear power was extremely dangerous, Mr. Koide dedicated over 40 years of his career to educate the nuclear industry and the general public to stop nuclear reactors in Japan. After the nuclear disaster in Fukushima, he gained “rock star” status due to his tireless efforts in providing detailed analysis and honest suggestions to the Japanese community about the extent of the disaster. He will speak about the extremely dangerous conditions at the Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Plant, including the concerns regarding the damaged Unit 4 irradiated fuel pool.

Dr. Junro Fuse, Internist and head of Kosugi Medical Clinic near Tokyo, Japan. In June 2011, he started to use social media as the main tool to educate the general public on risks associated with radiation exposure. He will discuss unusual medical symptoms among their patients after the nuclear accidents, issues within the Japanese medical communities to protect citizens from the disaster, health risks in association to the burning of radioactive tsunami debris and his concerns with the current food safety standards in Japan.

Dr. Ken Nakayama, Orthopedic Surgeon from Japan. Following the 3/11 earthquake, he entered the exclusion zone in Fukushima for three days as a member of the government’s Disaster Medical Assistance Team to rescue patients abandoned at a hospital. In December 2011, he spoke in a press conference in Osaka along with Dr. Fuse in opposition to the government policy for incinerating tsunami rubbles across the country.

Dr. Andrew S. Kanter, President of the Board of Directors of Physicians for Social Responsibility, has studied radioactive plume projections from nuclear reactor accident scenarios and other public health impacts of nuclear radiation dispersion. He is the director of Health Information Systems/Medical Informatics for the Millennium Villages Project for the Earth Institute at Columbia University as well as an Asst. Prof. for Clinical Biomedical Informatics and Clinical Epidemiology at Columbia University. Will speak about the need for accurate and timely information regarding exposure to radioactivity in order to protect and promote public health.
» bennyboy420 Fri May 04, 2012 04:23 PM Process-stop Flag_blue Delete_user Mail-reply-sender Ip Quote
Links for today's Fukushima press conference and Arnie Gundersen overview on Fuel Pool #4

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Section of press conference related to fuel pool #4 from today:
http://enenews.com/japan-nuclear-professor-press-conference-im-worried-very-about-reinforcement-4-fuel-pool-praying-wont-be-large-aftershocks-video

** the audio for the press conf is crappy .... the link below has good audio and excellent explanation of points

Radio interview with Arnie Gundersen - good overview about fuel pool on Unit 4: http://www.fairewinds.com/content/arnie-gundersen-kgo-radio-disaster-lingering-fukushima-daiichi-unit-4
» bennyboy420 Fri May 04, 2012 11:12 PM Process-stop Flag_blue Delete_user Mail-reply-sender Ip Quote


If Fukushima Unit 4 Falls, Hazardous Radioactive Cesium-137 Release Could be 8x Worse Than Chernobyl

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If Fukushima Unit 4 Falls, Hazardous Radioactive Cesium-137 Release Could be Eight Times Worse Than Chernobyl

TAKOMA PARK, MD--(ENWESPF)--May 4 - Beyond Nuclear today joined with concerned Japanese citizen groups and US Senator, Ron Wyden (D-OR), urging that swift international action be taken to prevent a catastrophic high-level radioactive waste fire at the precarious Unit 4 reactor building at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant in Japan.

Unit 4 is leaning and could topple if hit with another earthquake or tsunami, resulting in a deadly high-level radioactive waste fire. The ability for the unit to withstand another seismic event is rated at zero.

Today, a coalition of concerned Japanese citizens is urging United Nations Secretary General Ban-Ki Moon and Japanese Prime Minister Yoshihiko Noda, to properly inform the Japanese people of the perilous situation at Fukushima Daiichi, and to work together to prevent what would be an irreversible disaster that would release huge amounts of lethal radiation, dwarfing the scale of the original disaster.

Since the nuclear catastrophe began in March 2011, Beyond Nuclear has called attention to the ongoing risks of the damaged Fukushima Daiichi high-level radioactive waste storage pools. A similar danger persists at the 23 identical GE Mark I boiling water reactors still operating in the US.

“If the cooling water supply is lost to the high-level radioactive waste storage pool in Unit 4, it could be just a matter of hours before the irradiated nuclear fuel is on fire,” warned Kevin Kamps, radioactive waste specialist at Beyond Nuclear. “A fire in the Unit 4 high-level radioactive waste storage pool could release up to eight times more hazardous cesium-137 than the Chernobyl reactor explosion. That in turn would mean the site would have to be evacuated, risking the potential for all seven high-level radioactive waste storage pools at the site to ignite. If that happened, Fukushima Daiichi would release 85 times the levels of cesium released by Chernobyl, potentially forcing an evacuation, and permanent condemnation, of hundreds to thousands of square miles,” Kamps added...

http://www.enewspf.com/latest-news/science-a-environmental/33192-if-fukushima-unit-4-falls-hazardous-radioactive-cesium-137-release-could-be-eight-times-worse-than-chernobyl.html
» stew_pdasl Sat May 05, 2012 12:49 PM Process-stop Flag_blue Delete_user Mail-reply-sender Ip Quote
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BAzrWJXBIM0&feature=share

Say thank you to the worthless ignorant politicians corrupted by cash, who have allowed these places to be built in such dangerous places. Our governments are full of worthless buffoons, and you all sit there arguing whom to vote in the next election. The scope of the damages of the lies and recklessness of decades of propaganda, that made you believe you live in a democracy with competent people
» bennyboy420 Sat May 05, 2012 01:11 PM Process-stop Flag_blue Delete_user Mail-reply-sender Ip Quote
I believe we live in a corporatocracy that ONLY Serves the corporations. I knew that when Thousand protested the destruction of a great theater in Sacramento and that still didn't stop them from tearing it down and putting up a Safeway.

I knew it when I protested, along with hundreds of others, at the gates of Diablo Canyon, before they started building it. I knew it when it was KNOWN to be located on an earthquake fault (It has been discovered recently that it is in fact on THREE earthquake faults).
» bennyboy420 Sat May 05, 2012 10:54 PM Process-stop Flag_blue Delete_user Mail-reply-sender Ip Quote
Bump for NOT GOOD. This is real now. Almost inevitable now.
» RedHeaven Sun May 06, 2012 01:45 PM Process-stop Flag_blue Delete_user Mail-reply-sender Ip Quote
Kurosawa's Dreams is now really freaking me out, I have to admit. Scared me when I saw it in the theater and now it's really messing with me.

Check out Mt Fuji in Red if you havent already.....if you are not scared enough this'll top it off....ENJOY!
The Weeping Demon will fuck you up pretty good if you want to continue the madness.

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLBD9B6EC9D68605E5
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