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» Brandofunk Wed Feb 22, 2012 09:19 PM Process-stop Flag_blue Delete_user Mail-reply-sender Ip Quote
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Bb is a masterpiece.
so is this to some people:

http://princeton.guendel.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/img_8705.JPG
hardest i've laughed at anything on pt in months. seriously.
» TheClam Wed Feb 22, 2012 09:24 PM Process-stop Flag_blue Delete_user Mail-reply-sender Ip Quote
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well I understand that maybe the writers tried to make every character unlikable and they succeeded in doing that, so hooray for them! what i am saying is it doesnt make it quite an enjoyable viewing experience as other shows.


For you

I like the characters and a lot of other people do as well.

Yeah people hate skylar, but she is some shit Walt has to deal with and that is enjoyable for some.

It's ok it's not in your best of the best, others might disagree
» Guata311 Wed Feb 22, 2012 09:34 PM Process-stop Flag_blue Delete_user Mail-reply-sender Ip Quote
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I'm thinking Gus's computer in his office will produce quite a bit of evidence pointing to Walt. I envision a scene where Hank stumbles across a video file where Walt stares directly at the camera and pleads for his brother-in-law's life (if I'm remembering the scene correctly). Would be chilling.


great call


+1



very intereseting call!
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Bb is a masterpiece.
so is this to some people:

http://princeton.guendel.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/img_8705.JPG


hahahaha..did jack white make that?


i really want to keep reading this thread, but i have vowed to stop bickering about television shows, but this got me suckered right back in.
» kcsublime (OP) • Wed Feb 22, 2012 09:35 PM Process-stop Flag_blue Delete_user Mail-reply-sender Ip Quote
Does anyone know when Season 5 is supposed to premier?
» McFly717 Wed Feb 22, 2012 09:59 PM Process-stop Flag_blue Delete_user Mail-reply-sender Ip Quote
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well I understand that maybe the writers tried to make every character unlikable and they succeeded in doing that, so hooray for them! what i am saying is it doesnt make it quite an enjoyable viewing experience as other shows.


For you

I like the characters and a lot of other people do as well.

Yeah people hate skylar, but she is some shit Walt has to deal with and that is enjoyable for some.

It's ok it's not in your best of the best, others might disagree
so are you arguing that Skylar is a likable character? because otherwise im not sure how what you said was relevant.
» Guata311 Wed Feb 22, 2012 10:01 PM Process-stop Flag_blue Delete_user Mail-reply-sender Ip Quote
you guys are just arguing for the sake of arguing right now.
» Raskolnikov Wed Feb 22, 2012 10:07 PM Process-stop Flag_blue Delete_user Mail-reply-sender Ip Quote
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you guys are just arguing for the sake of arguing right now.
summary of phantasytour.com?
» kcsublime (OP) • Wed Feb 22, 2012 10:14 PM Process-stop Flag_blue Delete_user Mail-reply-sender Ip Quote
It's not really about whether or not a character is likable. It's more about whether they're sympathetic, and human.

Saul is also one of my favorite TV characters ever. Some of those conversations with Walt in his office were so fucking classic.
» McFly717 Wed Feb 22, 2012 10:28 PM Process-stop Flag_blue Delete_user Mail-reply-sender Ip Quote
what is "it"?

i was just talking about my preferences. i think its much more impressive to create an anti-hero like Tony Soprano or Don Draper or Omar rather than just an unlikable main character.
» Guata311 Wed Feb 22, 2012 10:31 PM Process-stop Flag_blue Delete_user Mail-reply-sender Ip Quote
you really didnt' think walt was likable at the beginning mcfly?
» McFly717 Wed Feb 22, 2012 10:33 PM Process-stop Flag_blue Delete_user Mail-reply-sender Ip Quote
nah not really. i mean you can be sympathetic. like... oh man... poor guy has cancer, what a bum deal.

but he was always kind of a peckerhead and just got worse and worse.
» Raskolnikov Wed Feb 22, 2012 10:39 PM Process-stop Flag_blue Delete_user Mail-reply-sender Ip Quote
"but he was always kind of a peckerhead and just got worse and worse."

i just started re-watching the series with my girl in the last week, and i couldn't agree more. Walt was a complete shit head from the beginning. minus the cancer, there is literally not one empathetic quality to his character.
» Guata311 Wed Feb 22, 2012 10:45 PM Process-stop Flag_blue Delete_user Mail-reply-sender Ip Quote
wow, im a big bb fluffer, but i respect your opinion.
» McFly717 Wed Feb 22, 2012 10:49 PM Process-stop Flag_blue Delete_user Mail-reply-sender Ip Quote
yeah i mean people will be like 'but you arent supposed to like him!!" which is something i understand and realize. if that was the intention... they were successful and are awarded 10 mcfly points for achieving their objective... but that doesnt make it any more enjoyable for me.

I really love the contrast of watching someone like tony cheat and kill... and just be an all around terrible person... that you for some reason find likable and are rooting for. I just find that kind of thing much more interesting and impressive from a creative standpoint.
» Raskolnikov Wed Feb 22, 2012 10:57 PM Process-stop Flag_blue Delete_user Mail-reply-sender Ip Quote
so, let me get this straight. one person might have a certain opinion. and, literally, the person next to him might have another? do i have that right?
» McFly717 Wed Feb 22, 2012 10:59 PM Process-stop Flag_blue Delete_user Mail-reply-sender Ip Quote
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so, let me get this straight. one person might have a certain opinion. and, literally, the person next to him might have another? do i have that right?
its insane, no?
» Raskolnikov Wed Feb 22, 2012 11:00 PM Process-stop Flag_blue Delete_user Mail-reply-sender Ip Quote
I AM GOING OUT OF MY MIND!!!!
» bassalone Thu Feb 23, 2012 07:31 AM Process-stop Flag_blue Delete_user Mail-reply-sender Ip Quote
i find walt very likable.

i am a hs math teacher though, so i probs relate to him more than other viewers.


i do see how they really played up the empathy angle though: cancer, disabled kid, bitchy wife, financial woes, another kid on the way.............

but walt is suposed to be a victim of circumstance. his decision to break bad seems realistic based on the cards he was dealt.

i love it.
» TheClam Thu Feb 23, 2012 07:57 AM Process-stop Flag_blue Delete_user Mail-reply-sender Ip Quote
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well I understand that maybe the writers tried to make every character unlikable and they succeeded in doing that, so hooray for them! what i am saying is it doesnt make it quite an enjoyable viewing experience as other shows.


For you

I like the characters and a lot of other people do as well.

Yeah people hate skylar, but she is some shit Walt has to deal with and that is enjoyable for some.

It's ok it's not in your best of the best, others might disagree
so are you arguing that Skylar is a likable character? because otherwise im not sure how what you said was relevant.


its ok you have reading comprehension problems.


skylar sucks

skylar is a bitch to walt

skylar puts walt in bad situations that are enjoyable to watch

you should hate skylar, but she is important to the story.
» beeker88 Thu Feb 23, 2012 08:08 AM Process-stop Flag_blue Delete_user Mail-reply-sender Ip Quote
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Does anyone know when Season 5 is supposed to premier?



They mentioned on a commercial during Hell on Wheels that the season of Walking Dead would finish this winter, another season of the Killing this spring. Mad Men late spring/early summer. Breaking Bad sometime this summer. Then another season of Hell on Wheels in the fall.

Pretty good lineup if you ask me.
» kcsublime (OP) • Thu Feb 23, 2012 05:12 PM Process-stop Flag_blue Delete_user Mail-reply-sender Ip Quote
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well I understand that maybe the writers tried to make every character unlikable and they succeeded in doing that, so hooray for them! what i am saying is it doesnt make it quite an enjoyable viewing experience as other shows.


For you

I like the characters and a lot of other people do as well.

Yeah people hate skylar, but she is some shit Walt has to deal with and that is enjoyable for some.

It's ok it's not in your best of the best, others might disagree
so are you arguing that Skylar is a likable character? because otherwise im not sure how what you said was relevant.


its ok you have reading comprehension problems.


skylar sucks

skylar is a bitch to walt

skylar puts walt in bad situations that are enjoyable to watch

you should hate skylar, but she is important to the story.


Skylar also SAVED Walt's ass multiple times by forcing him to buy a carwash to embezzle money through, and by making up a story to save face so that Hank never suspected anything other than gambling was going on. Or, if he did suspect it, at least her fucking brilliant story kept him from further investigating Walt.

She has also stood by his side, more or less, ditching Beneke after she realized he's a jackass and doing everything in her power to make sure Walter Jr. doesn't discover the truth. Yes, she can come off as a bitch, but ultimately, when though times call for it, she can step up to the plate and be a complete badass.
» kcsublime (OP) • Thu Feb 23, 2012 06:35 PM Process-stop Flag_blue Delete_user Mail-reply-sender Ip Quote
LOL, check out this Corn Pops commercial featuring Jesse Pinkman/Aaron Paul:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nM8nct9GQQI

fast forward to 8:25
» Shpongled Thu Feb 23, 2012 08:42 PM Process-stop Flag_blue Delete_user Mail-reply-sender Ip Quote
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LOL, check out this Corn Pops commercial featuring Jesse Pinkman/Aaron Paul:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nM8nct9GQQI

fast forward to 8:25


Ha nice find.
» nycgweese Fri Feb 24, 2012 10:03 AM Process-stop Flag_blue Delete_user Mail-reply-sender Ip Quote
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LOL, check out this Corn Pops commercial featuring Jesse Pinkman/Aaron Paul:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nM8nct9GQQI

fast forward to 8:25


Ha nice find.


how the hell did you find that ?

Pinkman rules
the guy knows how to throw a party !
» kcsublime (OP) • Fri Feb 24, 2012 05:32 PM Process-stop Flag_blue Delete_user Mail-reply-sender Ip Quote
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LOL, check out this Corn Pops commercial featuring Jesse Pinkman/Aaron Paul:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nM8nct9GQQI

fast forward to 8:25


Ha nice find.


how the hell did you find that ?

Pinkman rules
the guy knows how to throw a party !


lol.. I was reading wikipedia and it listen a bunch of stuff he'd appeared in, with a link to that youtube already provided. pretty fucking neat!
» TYPE_SLOWLY Fri Feb 24, 2012 05:54 PM Process-stop Flag_blue Delete_user Mail-reply-sender Ip Quote
Walt is definitely "riding for a fall" Holden style
So many times he could have been free & clear, but he just has to make a big deal of himself, and re implicate himself.
» Shaggy Dog Fri Feb 24, 2012 06:31 PM Process-stop Flag_blue Delete_user Mail-reply-sender Ip Quote
hank will kill walt
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