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from the YCMTSU department.....
Let's recall the NAACP urging the UN to investigate US voted ID laws back in March.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/03/14/un-delves-into-us-voter-id-laws/
and for the ad hominem idiots:
http://www.npr.org/blogs/itsallpolitics/2012/03/09/148291825/the-fight-over-voter-id-laws-goes-to-the-united-nations
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/mar/09/naacp-un-voter-disfranchisement-us
This is of course the UN, whose members include countries that don't even allow women to vote.... but hey!! Who's keeping score?
Now, international UN-appointed officials here observing the elections are "amazed" at the US voting system which requires no voter ID and depends entirely on trust.
http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2012/11/06/foreign_election_officials_amazed_by_trust_based_us_voting_system
Well, at least one good thing out of the UN inspectors being here are the anti-ID people getting self'd.
Pure gold.
Let's recall the NAACP urging the UN to investigate US voted ID laws back in March.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/03/14/un-delves-into-us-voter-id-laws/
and for the ad hominem idiots:
http://www.npr.org/blogs/itsallpolitics/2012/03/09/148291825/the-fight-over-voter-id-laws-goes-to-the-united-nations
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/mar/09/naacp-un-voter-disfranchisement-us
This is of course the UN, whose members include countries that don't even allow women to vote.... but hey!! Who's keeping score?
Now, international UN-appointed officials here observing the elections are "amazed" at the US voting system which requires no voter ID and depends entirely on trust.
http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2012/11/06/foreign_election_officials_amazed_by_trust_based_us_voting_system
Well, at least one good thing out of the UN inspectors being here are the anti-ID people getting self'd.
Pure gold.
It would be one thing if the ID law was already in place for years, or was grandfathered in so that the lederly were not discriminated against, but that was not the case. Grandma and granpa who are both 90 and have not ever had a valid drivers license or simply have an expired one do not have the way or means, much less the need to go get that ID. That is the problem.
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Originally Posted by surrendertotheflow4 It would be one thing if the ID law was already in place for years, or was grandfathered in so that the lederly were not discriminated against, but that was not the case. Grandma and granpa who are both 90 and have not ever had a valid drivers license or simply have an expired one do not have the way or means, much less the need to go get that ID. That is the problem. |
fucking preposterous hypothetical. moron
great input. dumbass.
my poll tax threads
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Originally Posted by PSUJam24 Well, at least one good thing out of the UN inspectors being here are the anti-ID people getting self'd. Pure gold. |
As well as the Anti-UN people getting self'd by suddenly relying on the UN to prove themselves.
Why can't everyone be registered to vote when they are born? Should be an automatic thing. Pretty easy.
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Originally Posted by surrendertotheflow4 It would be one thing if the ID law was already in place for years, or was grandfathered in so that the lederly were not discriminated against, but that was not the case. Grandma and granpa who are both 90 and have not ever had a valid drivers license or simply have an expired one do not have the way or means, much less the need to go get that ID. That is the problem. |
I understand that, but when will this never be the case? People don't stop getting old. I could see grandfathering the clause in, but that only creates a logistical/administrative nightmare for poll workers to enforce.
These 98 year old grandmoms that were born in some other state and dont have a verifiable birth certificate will very quickly be a relic of the past... no one can operate in this modern era without an ID, and that is a fact.
We're the only industrialized nation in the world that doesn't require voter ID. You know, because of the poor. Mexico doesn't have any poor people.
Back to the hypocrisy highlighted in the OP..... Wonder what is so shocking to the UN now that wasn't so shocking when they investigated the laws back in the spring? Should any country that is lower on the human rights scorecard have any right to tell us anything?
they dipped my finger in ink!
It really is pretty amazing we don't require ID to vote in person.
suddenly conservatives think the UN is a respected institution that we should be listening to?
YCMTSU indeed.
YCMTSU indeed.
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Originally Posted by francisco_d_anconia It really is pretty amazing we don't require ID to vote in person. |
lol no
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Originally Posted by tmwsiy71 Quote:
As well as the Anti-UN people getting self'd by suddenly relying on the UN to prove themselves. |
so you're for voter ID?
that was easy. glad you get it now.
anyone else?
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Originally Posted by squats suddenly conservatives think the UN is a respected institution that we should be listening to?
YCMTSU indeed. |
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Originally Posted by zappafrank Why can't everyone be registered to vote when they are born? Should be an automatic thing. Pretty easy. |
Seems easy to me too.
Try Sweden and Australia on for size:
http://abcnews.go.com/ABC_Univision/countries-easier-vote-united-states/story?id=17625616#.UJl9g8WHLTo
Still need an ID to back up who you say you are.
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Originally Posted by francisco_d_anconia It really is pretty amazing we don't require ID to vote in person. |
no doubt. i don't care what the UN says, there should be a law requiring ID to vote.
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Originally Posted by PSUJam24 Quote:
Seems easy to me too. Try Sweden and Australia on for size: http://abcnews.go.com/ABC_Univision/countries-easier-vote-united-states/story?id=17625616#.UJl9g8WHLTo Still need an ID to back up who you say you are. |
no you dont. why is a plastic card with your photo the only way to identify someone nowadays
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Originally Posted by squats suddenly conservatives think the UN is a respected institution that we should be listening to?
YCMTSU indeed. |
so you are also for voter ID? chalk up another one.
this is why we create these threads phanners. spreading the knowledge.
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Originally Posted by zappafrank Why can't everyone be registered to vote when they are born? Should be an automatic thing. Pretty easy. |
with us the un is just a bunch of faggots with nothing
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Originally Posted by PSUJam24 Quote:
so you are also for voter ID? chalk up another one. this is why we create these threads phanners. spreading the knowledge. |
I will be all for voter IDs when it's shown that it will prevent approximately 10X more voter fraud than deny legal voters their Constitutionally protected right to vote.
As of yet I have not seen any kind of evidence that it will actually stop voter fraud. It just seems like a solution looking for a problem.
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Originally Posted by coventryglidepwns Quote:
no you dont. why is a plastic card with your photo the only way to identify someone nowadays |
because of the controls in place to obtain that piece of plastic? did you really just ask that?
YMCMB
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Originally Posted by zappafrank Why can't everyone be registered to vote when they are born? Should be an automatic thing. Pretty easy. |
because as americans we have a right to not ever register to vote, which thern means (in certain areas) that we would never be chosen for Jury Duty either.
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Originally Posted by PSUJam24 We're the only industrialized nation in the world that doesn't require voter ID. |
I'm also pretty sure we're the only industrialized nation that doesn't have a national holiday for voting.
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Originally Posted by coventryglidepwns Quote:
no you dont. why is a plastic card with your photo the only way to identify someone nowadays |
oh, we're gonna play this game?
retina scans? fingerprints? a super-secret pass-phrase that only legally eligible and registered voters know when they receive their decoder ring in the mail a week before the election?
im spent. how else do you ID someone in person besides their unique physical characteristics?
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Originally Posted by PSUJam24 Back to the hypocrisy highlighted in the OP..... Wonder what is so shocking to the UN now that wasn't so shocking when they investigated the laws back in the spring? Should any country that is lower on the human rights scorecard have any right to tell us anything? |
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Originally Posted by bigtoddy420 Quote:
I'm also pretty sure we're the only industrialized nation that doesn't have a national holiday for voting. |
also the only industrialized w/out universal healthcare for our citizens
also the only industrialized that still executes criminals.
lolUN
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Originally Posted by squats I will be all for voter IDs when it's shown that it will prevent approximately 10X more voter fraud than deny legal voters their Constitutionally protected right to vote. As of yet I have not seen any kind of evidence that it will actually stop voter fraud. It just seems like a solution looking for a problem. |
talking points'd
only industrialized nation in the world that doesn't require a voter ID. did you read the article?
international officials from countries that vote with marbles are astounded at our voting system and the trust that is implied across tens of millions of people. most advanced country in the world, and we're voting our leaders in with a glorified game of 7-up.
the idea is to prove that you are who you say you are and the vote you're about to cast is eligible, not prove that youre not someone else. understand?
IDs are required for everything for a reason. Identity theft is a huge problem. Agreed?
Yet, apparently, steering the course of our nation for 320million people with your vote isn't quite as much of a concern as buying cigarettes or renting a hotel room.
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