I think they r still trying to wrap their arms around the whole" the us isn't all white anymore". That was the bread and butter.

"you liberals" = "I'm a red state fucking reatard....seriously, I'm dumber than the average person and like the same things other dumb people like"

i dont think there are any on this board other than those few trolls

Sounds about right, seeing that the only real answer to my question was given above from a PT'er claiming not to me a republican.

ignoramus talking point/phrase meant to immediately dismiss anything said by a progressive person as inferior somehow. Bunch of bullies who just don't get it. With today's social media they can no longer run on lies and fear. People snub it out in seconds. Well all except the brainwashed idiots who listen to the AM radio haters alliance.

Yes that's what I meant.

Well, I didn't discredit your opinion, I was replying to Jaxons_Need who was replying to me asking what GOP'ers had to say. Your opinion is welcome, sorry if you got confused when reading.

I'm going with closer to 60/40 (the 40 being a race issue).

Naive. I can tell you are pretty young by this post.

By every measure, Obama has governed as a center-moderate, not the far left ideologue he has been painted to be. On foreign policy he has actually been center-right, and operated many of the same policies that George W Bush did. On Tax policy he allowed the conservative Bush tax cuts to continue. On Health care reform, he abandoned the liberal idea of a single-payer system, and bought into a conservative idealism of Dole and Romney with a plan that was nothing but a HUGE BOON to the Free Enterprise, in the form of an individual mandate to buy private insurance. He has appointed corporate, free enterprise people to government like in the case of the FDA.

By every measure, Obama has not been very liberal at all. True liberals, like myself, would very much like to see him move to a more left-leaning platform in tax policy as well foreign policy, something he will probably not be able to do, because he will need to govern from the center to fix the deficit, as well as the entitlement programs.

But to go even further, with your line of thinking, the electorate is entirely 100% informed and isn't treating the election as a popularity contest. I simply disagree. Most people vote their hardcore, rigid belief system which is instituted in childhood, and these belief systems are cemented in our neighborhoods, the people we associate, the color of the people that we see most frequently. This is the reason for over 200 years we have had white men dominate our political process. For centuries, the electorate was comprised of mostly white men, and they elected white men. That demographic is changing. More women are voting, and as a result more women are getting into office. More minorities are voting, and more minorities are getting into office. Black people overwhelmingly voted in favor of Barrack Obama, and they certainly didn't all lean that way because of policy.

The only way to align these realities with your belief set is to believe that white people, and white people alone are voting entirely on the premise of policy, and every other race is choosing primarily on the basis of skin color. While I would concede that many more white people vote on the basis of policy than any other minority group does, you need only look to sources like Fox News who are pushing the white voting block, who remains afraid of minority groups and the threat they pose to the American way of life that they know and love, to believe that they need to vote against Barrack Obama to save America from a changing demographic.

nans